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+From: "Per M. Hansen" <perhans@indexdata.dk>
+To: Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com>
+CC: Sebastian Hammer <quinn@indexdata.dk>
+Subject: Re: Target classifications
+Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 11:50:11 +0200
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+
+Mike Taylor skrev:
+> Per M. Hansen writes:
+>
+>>>> As you can see there are people out there who are waiting for
+>>>> IRSpy. :-) How is the work progeressing?
+>>>>
+>>> Looking quite nice. I'll put a copy of the web interface up on
+>>> test so you can see how it's coming along.
+>>>
+>>
+>> Sounds great, looking forward to see it.
+>>
+>
+> You can now see the work-in-progress at
+> http://irspy.indexdata.com/
+>
+> If you get Unknown Host for that address, it's because the DNS change
+> hasn't propagated to you yet. Until then, make an entry in your local
+> hosts table pointing the hostname to 213.150.43.14 (test).
+>
+> Of course, be aware that the UI is not finished! The biggest gap at
+> the moment is that you can't see the results of any of the tests (at
+> least, not without reading the Apache logs :-)
+Look great, Mike.
+
+ I have a few comments:
+
+ * In the Add target screen I had envisioned a lot more fields for
+ entering data about the server. First of all we need a Name field.
+ Second it think we should have a section with additional info
+ about the target, like URL to hosting org. Email to technical
+ contact (that is the mail we use to send mails to when we
+ encounter a problem with the server), Username and password, Type
+ of library (probably a dropdown with, Academic, Public, Corporate,
+ Special, National, Education, Other) and Country.
+ * In the display of the targets you should have room or at least
+ some way of showing this additional info. Maybe some kind of mouse
+ over or popup.
+ * In the target display, eg. under R the display of non ASCII
+ characters goes wrong.
+
+Then I have some questions:
+
+ * How are you going to handle targets that has (permanent) errors?
+ Will they be marked or excluded from the list?
+ * How are you going to handle email notification of technical
+ contact persons with targets that has permanent errors?
+ * Have you thought about a statistics page like in Z-Spy?
+ * When added a target, can you handle targets with multiple
+ databases? How do you write the database names in the inputbox?
+ * When adding a new target do you have a check if the target is
+ there already, maybe registered with the IP instead of the hostname?
+ * Should we get a designer to give the site an overhaul?
+
+--
+Per
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+From mike@miketaylor.org.uk Thu Sep 21 12:41:37 2006
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+From: Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com>
+To: "Per M. Hansen" <perhans@indexdata.dk>
+Cc: Sebastian Hammer <quinn@indexdata.dk>
+Subject: Re: Target classifications
+Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 12:41:37 +0100
+
+Per M. Hansen writes:
+ > > You can now see the work-in-progress at
+ > > http://irspy.indexdata.com/
+ >
+ > Look great, Mike.
+ >
+ > I have a few comments:
+
+Thanks for these.
+
+ > * In the Add target screen I had envisioned a lot more fields for
+ > entering data about the server. First of all we need a Name field.
+ > Second it think we should have a section with additional info
+ > about the target, like URL to hosting org. Email to technical
+ > contact (that is the mail we use to send mails to when we
+ > encounter a problem with the server), Username and password, Type
+ > of library (probably a dropdown with, Academic, Public, Corporate,
+ > Special, National, Education, Other) and Country.
+
+Yep, most or all of that fits into the ZeeRex record. The current
+version doesn't have any of it, because it's using the IRSpy ability
+to quietly add a new record as a side-effect of running the tests on a
+not-previously-known target; but when I do the proper "Add a target"
+page, it'll have a lot more spaces. Also, the option of uploading a
+pre-made ZeeRex record.
+
+ > * In the display of the targets you should have room or at least
+ > some way of showing this additional info. Maybe some kind of mouse
+ > over or popup.
+
+Hadn't thought of those approaches -- I was just going to have a
+"[Details]" link. IIRC, mouseover is easy to do with compliant XHTML
+(which is what I use anyway) so maybe I'll try it that way.
+
+ > * In the target display, eg. under R the display of non ASCII
+ > characters goes wrong.
+
+Oh *%^$! Freakin' character-sets! :-)
+
+Thanks, I'll look into that.
+
+ > Then I have some questions:
+ >
+ > * How are you going to handle targets that has (permanent) errors?
+ > Will they be marked or excluded from the list?
+
+Open to discussion. The first question I suppose is what would count
+as "permanent" -- no response for six months?
+
+ > * How are you going to handle email notification of technical
+ > contact persons with targets that has permanent errors?
+
+Easily enough for targets whose ZeeRex records have a contact email in
+them! For others, I guess falling back to <hostmaster@domain> is the
+best we can do automatically?
+
+ > * Have you thought about a statistics page like in Z-Spy?
+
+Patience, my pretty!
+
+ > * When added a target, can you handle targets with multiple
+ > databases? How do you write the database names in the
+ > inputbox?
+
+In ZeeRex terms, each target is a single database -- so a Z-server
+that has multiple databases would register each of them as a separate
+target that just happens to have the same host and port as its
+buddies.
+
+ > * When adding a new target do you have a check if the target is
+ > there already, maybe registered with the IP instead of the
+ > hostname?
+
+Nope. Do you think I should?
+
+ > * Should we get a designer to give the site an overhaul?
+
+Given how far over time (and so over budget!) we already are, I
+wouldn't have thought so. But once it's all working functionally, we
+can revisit that and figure out what we want to do with the cosmetics.
+
+(What's wrong with it, anyway? Does it need a Hot Chick in the banner
+area at the top?)
+
+ _/|_ ___________________________________________________________________
+/o ) \/ Mike Taylor <mike@indexdata.com> http://www.miketaylor.org.uk
+)_v__/\ "In JP III, scientists recreate the actual dino killer meteorite
+ from glassy fragments found near somewhere difficult to spell
+ in South America - evil bad people launch the meteor into space
+ and disaster ensues" - Derek Tearne
+
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